Saturday, February 4
Let’s Go Back to our Tents
Using religion for political and personal benefits is an old tactic. And unfortunately Moslem religious leaders have exhausted this tactic and we (Moslems) always take the bait. It seems like “eltekrar ye3alim el…..” does not apply to this part of the globe.
Danish episode was deliberately escalated by Islamists to provoke more hatred towards the west and everything civilized. Some Imams have even used false accusations to further exaggerate their ambitions;
check this .
If this episode tells me something, it clearly shows the power of our religious leaders to manipulate our emotions and mass move the public. Most people who participated in this campaign have not actually seen the caricatures, or have seen other drawings that were specifically published to deceive the public. But unfortunately; our public is not the type that digs out the truth from the source and form their opinions, simply because they are too lazy to research, they settle for a word of mouth and like parrots repeat, succumb, or else…..
This does not surprise me at all; our whole educational system is based on REPETITION.
I see and read a lot of hatred remarks even from some Moslems that don’t know the ABC’s of their religion, death threats are all around, not only directed to those Danish artists, but also to whomever utters a word against their campaign, or even towards the ones who do not participate in the flow of boycotting Danish products. Liberals are keeping their mouths (pens) shut although they refuse such an unprecedented outburst because they are too scared. Their opponents do not deal with reason, they fight with blood. And that’s a shame.
This proves my point that religion is about politics. Most of us declare: religion is between man and God, and I will not participate in any religious politics. Yet, one incident shows how much we are in deep $#%^ when it comes to political Islam.
How degrading it is to be used and not realize it.
All I’m asking here is for the free mind thinkers to give this issue its rightful size; do not participate in something you would regret when it’s too late. If you know nothing about the issue, just keep your beautiful mouths shut.
And I urge the ones who have the knowledge and the public trust of pen to clear out the huge misunderstandings about this issue ( bujaij, you too), yes this is a call for counter campaign:
I REFUSE TO BOYCOTT DANISH PRODUCTS, and demand to deal more rationally with this issue.
Posted by AyyA:: at :: 11:46 AM::
14 Comments:
Actually, I prefer to go back to my tent :p
you mean teepee :P
سمعاً وطاعة
:)
نشرت موضوع كنت قد كتبته وترددت في نشره ، ولكن ما قاله بو راكان صحيح حين يتعلق الأمر بالدين أخاف _ أنا مدعية الليبرالية- إن تطيح عليّ السما أو اتحول شاذي مثلاً
Purg
If you are proposing one, then the wool should be the Afghani product.
Princess
Afa 3alaich, publish it wi giteeha ibrasi, what are friends for ;)
Burakan
The wave is getting really scary.
Ayya,
Regarding Tents & backwardness:
Take Iraqis for an example. They lived in a dictatorship more than 4 decades, What did they do when it ended?
They went back to follow Imams & tribal leaders.
I think it goes in the blood!
regarding fear of voicing out opinions:
I think the main reason is the fear of rejection. Some so-called Liberals don't want to be stamped as Zanadiqa or pro-west in these days, since it means for a lot that they are anti-Islam.
But when the voice of reasond is muted, ignorance will flourish.
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BuRakan,
There is a good argument started recently.
You, Salah Al-Sayer, Waleed Al-Jasem & Nabeel Al-Fathel brought it up today (friday), which is -simply- if a bunch of people made actions regarded as offending to muslims in any given country, will we boycott the whole coutry.
Now after the cartoons appeared in Germany, Italy, France & Jordan. Fundementalist are calling to boycott them all.
And I think it's a matter of time and they will discover that we're living in a world shaped by the west and isolation will bring no one no good.
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Guys Think about it,
what if I published the cartoons in my blog?
Will they boycott Kuwaiti products?! or American ones, since blogger/google is Amaercian?!
WAKE UP!!
Xetetic
:)
IDip
I would really appreciate it if you post a link to those articles you mentioned here, thanks
wana ba3ad wiyyakum
Ayya, my pleasure!
Here they are:
عبداللطيف الدعيج: هل حقا لدينا القدرة على العيش على تمر ولبن؟
Link
وليد الجاسم: ماذا لو أن؟
Link
نبيل الفضل: احاديث في يوم اجازة
Link
and you'll find a copy of Salah Al-Sayer's column in your inbox, because Al-Anbaa doesn't have a website.
PS: (correction) the articles were published on Saturday 4-Feb-2006, not on friday as I mentioned earlier.
A3sab
There is something wrong with your comment link; it does not open.
IDip
Thank you I got the mail
Another link worth of checking click this
الصج إني أخلط الجد بالهزل
أتجنب -أحياناً- هذه المواضيع لأجنب نفسي صياح وصراخ الجماهير...نتفونا عند زيدون ....ياكلون طروش على قولة جدتي الله يرحمها
المهم
نشرت الموضوع بالامس الساعة الواحدة ظهراً ...وفي الصباح اختفى من المدونة ومن الارشيف...اتصلت بصديقة وسألتها هل قرأتي الموضوع قالت نعم عصر أمس واليوم اختفى
إش هالحالة!!!
لا طاحت السما ولا تحولت شاذي ...زالموضوع اختفى ...هذي مقدور عليها
Mushmushi
I do agree that the caricatures were highly offensive; no argument about that. But I think the reaction had exceeded any expectations. The boycott is imposed whether we like it or not, and this is the difference between us and the civilized nations. If the public had boycotted the product at their will, all the dairy products would have gone to waste, and this is a much bigger message than imposing the boycott as it is happing now. This is dictatorship. But as you said our image in the west is already distorted, so what are we doing with the burning of embassies and barbaric demonstrations would definitely not brighten our picture. It added more gas to the already burning ember. Who is benefiting from this? And where does it stop? Did the apology you provided in the link stop it? no
You have to understand that I do not disagree with the essence, but I definitely condemn the means. Boycotting should have been my choice and not imposed. And Islamists are the ones that are escalating this issue for personal benefits, otherwise; explain to me the double talk I provided on the link.
All I’m saying is, people should go back to their senses and try to cool the argument before it’s too late and we all regret the consequences.
التحريض على المقاطعة والكلام عن النيل من أعداء الأمة ما هي إلا تعبئة عاطفية لامعقولة وغير مفيدة على المدى البعيد وإن أتت بعض الثمار وأرغمتهم على الإعتذار
ماذا بعد .. هل نصفق على هذا الإنجاز
حرق أعلام وتكسير للمتلكات ووضع الشعوب الغربية كلها في سلة واحدة وشتمهم وزيادة الفجوة الثقافية
سيداتي سادتي ..
المسلمين عاطفيين الى أقصى درجة ونحن منهم ونعلم ذلك جيدا في مسألتين
1-الخوض في تاريخنا الإسلامي والبحث عن دقائق الأمور
2-القدسية التي نسجت حول الشخصيات الإسلامية قديما وحاضرا
وطبعا الأنبياء ليسوا منهم – حتى لا ندخل في لجلجة مع المتحمسين
ولكن هذه العاطفة تؤكد على مكانة رجال الدين وان ما نسمعه من تحليل للأوضاع السياسية والدينية من أي داعية أو شيخ دين أو دكتور شريعة يعتبر من أمور السمع والطاعة التي يجب علينا إتباعها حتى وإن كان غير متخصص فيما يقول .. خصوصا عند الناس الذين ليس لهم اهتمامات بالقراءة والبحث عن مصدر هذا النص أو ذاك فالإتكال والإعتماد على التلقي هي الثقافة السائدة للأسف الشديد
ومن الطبيعي أن يحب المسلم نبيه ودينه ولا يرضى بأن يشتم ويثور للدفاع عن معتقده وهذا هو مفتاح القلوب الذي أستعمل في التحريض على المقاطعة فالناس خرجت للشارع غاضبة فعلا على من سب رمزها وليست مرغمة على فعل ذلك ... ولكنها لقنت بما هو صحيح جزئيا وليس كل الحقيقة وخلفياتها وتم تهيئة المسيرات والندوات ورفع الشعارات المنددة وطُلِب من الناس المقاطعة دون افساح المجال لهم للمناقشة في إيجاد حلول أكثر ملاءمة وأكثر فائدة تدل على عقلانية وتحضر
وسئل الشيخ القطان عقب الخطبة مباشرة بأن هذه المقاطعة تضر بالتجار الكويتيين والتجار الدنمركيين الذين لا ناقة ولا جمل بما حصل وهذا يناقض مبدأ اسلامي بأن لاتعمم العقوبة .. فقال كلامٌ صحيح ..وإنفضوا من حوله
لكن ما فائدة أن يسمعه الملتفين حوله فقط وقبل دقائق نادى وشتم وزبد وأرعد من على المنبر وأما دوي المستفيدين من هذه الحملة أقوى وأكبر والفائدة هي كسب ود وثقة الشارع مرة أخرى بعدأن ظلت في قطيعة بعد إرهاب منهاتن في 11/9 والتي لم يخرج للتنديد والإعتراض عليها أحد من هؤلاء الأبطال المزيفين
ويقولون ليش الغرب يصور المسلمين على أنهم إرهابيين
أرجو الإنتباه الى ظاهرة خمينيي الكويت الذين أهدروا دم الرسامين
Thank you you-sif
I couldn't have said it any better
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